Sun 22 May 2011
by Ron Goulart
I was fourteen when I wrote to Leslie Charteris asking him to allow me to adapt The Saint for the theater. The theater in question being the auditorium of Burbank Junior High School in Berkeley, California.
Although the Saint I’d seen on the screen in the RKO B-Movies of a few years earlier was portrayed by the suave George Sanders, who was well over six feet tall, I had no doubt that I, who’d recently shot up to the impressive height of five foot four, could do a nifty job of portraying Simon Templar. I was equally certain that I could summon up sufficient suaveness.
I’d discovered the Saint, that Robin Hood of Modern Crime, by way of the movies, but the advent of Pocket Books allowed me, for just two bits each, to get hold of most of novels and short story collections that had appeared since Charteris had created the character back in 1928.
I liked not only the thriller aspects, and the mystery and crime elements but the humor in the books (which seems to have partially leaked out the last time I attempted to reread one). Charteris has said in the introduction to one of his books that one of his major influences was P. G. Wodehouse, another of my literary idols back in the days when I was starting to shave.
In that bygone era my contact with the entertainment world — books, radio, movies, comic books, etc. — was strictly as a consumer. I therefore assumed that it would be relatively simple when I was a few years older to become a novelist, a short story writer, a movie star, a radio actor, a playwright and a matinee idol, a cartoonist who drew gag cartoons, a syndicated comic strip and a comic book of his own.
In junior high I was a sort of economy-size Orson Welles. I wrote play adaptations of Robin Hood, A Connecticut Yankee and A Christmas Carol and starred in each one. Seeing me, in green tights, cross swords with the Sheriff of Nottingham is probably one of the memories most of my fellow students have had a difficult time forgetting.
I exchanged a few more letters with Charteris. I believe the first one was written when he was affiliated with his own paperback publishing company in Los Angeles. They were reissuing quite a few Saint books, plus new anthologies with stories about Hollywood, etc.
There was also one collecting radio scripts from various shows, including one from a Saint broadcast. I suggested to him that a whole book of Saint scripts would be a good idea. He responded that since the scripts were mostly adaptations of printed stories that probably wouldn’t attract a large enough audience.
Quite a few years later, when I was editing The British Detective anthology for Signet, I thought it would be a good idea to include a Saint novelet, “The Million Pound Day.”
Charteris replied that since his story was twice as long as most of the others, he should receive twice the offered fee of $500. So I missed a chance to be Leslie Charteris’s editor.
When I was working on a Nostalgia Book Club book about radio detectives, I queried him as to who he thought the best actor to play his character on radio. He was residing on the Riviera at the time, possibly in a yacht. His fourth wife was the movie actress Audrey Long, frequently seen in the RKO B- Movies of the 1940s.
He sent a helpful reply and mentioned that if I wrote him again I include return postage. The nostalgia line went out of business before I ever wrote the book.
Several men assayed the role of Simon Templar on the air. The show ran, off and on, from about 1945 to 1950. They included Edgar Barrier, Brian Aherne, Vincent Price (when I listened to him back then I didn’t notice what a smarmy Saint he made) and Tom Conway. The Saint’s creator told me the best man was the first one, Edgar Barrier.
I noticed on Google that Charteris said the movie actors he thought should have been Templar were Ronald Colman, Cary Grant or Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. As for the actual chaps who played the part, he said “Louis Hayward and George Sanders were hopelessly miscast.”
Raymond Chandler, by the way, said he thought the ideal actor to play Philip Marlowe was Cary Grant. You can’t beat suaveness.
1343 Kains Ave
Berkeley 2, Calif
Dear Mr Goulart:
I’m sorry I can’t give you permission to any dramatic
adaptations on the Saint. It isn’t a matter of the royalty
in the case of a non-profit production, but the fact that I
can’t allow my character to be handled by anyone without
my supervision, and if I were to give my supervision, I’m
afraid I couldn’t be persuaded to do so for no profit.
So I’m afraid you’ll just have to find some other subject
to exercise your talents on.
Thanks just the same for your interest in this and other
Saint matters.
[Signed]
Leslie Charteris
LC:PW
Previously on this blog:
LESLIE CHARTERIS – The Brighter Buccaneer (reviewed by Art Scott)
LESLIE CHARTERIS – The Saint in New York (reviewed by Art Scott)
LESLIE CHARTERIS – The Saint and the Templar Treasure (reviewed by Steve Lewis)
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:39 pm
What a great post. Anything by Ron is a treat.
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Terrific post. Young Ron Goulart sounds a lot like the Jason Schwartzmann character in RUSHMORE.
May 22nd, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Great stuff!
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:30 am
Excellent post Ron. I never really liked the Saint novels by Charteris. But I did like the George Sanders version in the movies. Funny that Charteris could not see that Sanders was perfect as the Saint.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:49 am
While I like the Saint movies with George Sanders, I have to side with Charteris on this one. Whenever I read a Saint novel or short story, George Sanders never enters my mind’s eye view of the character. Never ever.
May 23rd, 2011 at 6:15 am
I’m sure Steve is right since it’s been about 40 years since I’ve read Charteris and I have no desire to repeat the experience. George Sanders is a big favorite of mine, so I guess I just like whatever he is in. He’s great in ALL ABOUT EVE and even in B-movies like QUIET PLEASE, MURDER he impresses me as the book loving crook.
May 23rd, 2011 at 6:18 am
For a bizarre variation on the Saint & Inspector Teal, try THE JUDGE AND HIS HANGMAN by Friedrich Duerrenmatt
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:10 pm
We had to read the Duerrenmatt book in a German class I took in college, translating it word by word in class, perhaps a chapter a day. This is NOT the way to read a mystery novel, which it is, at its core. The story went in one ear and out the other, until the end, when the dawn came.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Richter_und_sein_Henker
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
I have started seriously collecting Leslie Charteris stuff in recent years (both Saint and non-Saint) and I have to say that he is a seriously underrated author. I appreciate that he isn’t to everybody’s taste, but he kept up a very high standard over very many years. The stuff that he produced in the 30s is perhaps the best. There is a lovely ‘anything goes’ mood in the best of them that is quite exhilirating. Charteris often breaks the fourth wall, such as when he tells the villain who holds him prisoner that he can’t die as this is only the first story in the book.
I also like the fact that some of the stories are seriously weird. Just look at DAWN from SAINT ERRANT, where Templar finds that he has literally wandered into another person’s dream. Or how about THE MAN WHO LIKED ANTS from THE HAPPY HIGHWAYMAN where he has to deal with a mad scientist who is producing giant ants. You never quite know which way a Saint story is going to go…
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:37 pm
“Dawn” is also known as “The Darker Drink.” I know because I had to go look it up, since I didn’t recognize it as “Dawn.”
There is a lot of rumor that Charteris didn’t write either that story or “The Man Who Liked Ants.” SF writer Theodore Sturgeon’s name has been suggested for “Dawn,” and Cleve Cartmill, another SF writer, for “Ants.”
As far as I know, though, that’s all that previous paragraph is: rumor.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Walker, back in Comment #5, you stated that you never liked the Saint novels. I imagine you have, but I’ll ask anyway. Did you ever try the Saint in short story form?
As Art Scott points out in his review of THE BRIGHTER BUCCANEER a few posts back, the Saint novels and the Saint short stories are really two different bodies of work.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
As long as no one’s asked, I’ll answer the question anyway. The actor my mind’s eye sees when I read an adventure of the Saint looks a lot like a young Errol Flynn.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Steve, I side with Walker. It has been awhile since I tried to force myself through a Saint short story or book. I found the writing annoyingly smug. My first Saint was the first he wrote. So I think I might try one of the weirder ones someone else wrote. “Dawn” aka “The Darker Drink” sounds interesting the way Bradstreet described it.
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:01 pm
There’s a fine line, I suppose, between one person’s “smug” (excessively self-satisfied or complacent) and another person’s “insouciant” (lighthearted, debonair, jaunty, breezy).
Maybe tomorrow I’ll wake up on the other side of the fence. I don’t think so, but maybe.
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Back in 1977 I sent a number of the Saint books and stories to Charteris (then living in England) to have him sign them. On the flyleaf of one he wrote “To J. Randolph Cox, on a historic date, 12 May 1977, Leslie Charteris.” He also drew the famous stick figure with a halo. It took me longer than it should have to realize what he meant by “historic.” Of course, it was his birthday! Curious this series of postings should come up now because I’ve been rereading some of the early books. Some are better than others. Such is life.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Cary Grant is perfectly understood for the part. But, among the many people who did play Simon Templar, Louis Hayward in the first Saint film seems to strike sparks. Cultured, schoolboyish, surprisingly dangerous. His second outing, Saint’s Girl Friday, not so good. No one else even comes close.
May 24th, 2011 at 3:06 am
Roger moore used to play Simon Templar, aka The Saint, in a British Tv-series in the sixties.
Every now and then, smaller TV-stations bring reruns. How the storyline of the serials relate to Charteris’ books, I would’nt know.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:53 am
There is a nice website devoted to The Saint.
http://www.saint.org
This site says the 1962-65 black and white TV series with Roger Moore featured episodes based on the “Charteris” books and short stories.
The 1966-69 Color episodes with Roger Moore and shown on NBC had Charteris as a consultant but featured original stories for TV.
There are more details about The Saint including radio and other TV series at the site.
Also…
CAPTURE THE SAINT by Burl Barer (approved by Leslie Charteris estate) is available for $2.99 as an e-book (Saint Club 2009). The paperback is out of print (Saint Club 1999).
May 25th, 2011 at 12:40 am
The first fifty Saint books will be available for the Kindle later this year.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:27 am
Thanks, Ian. It’s good to know that they’ll be back in print again.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
What does everybody think of the choice of James Purefoy as The Saint in the upcoming TV series? Could be interesting, although I’m reserving judgement until I’ve seen it.
May 25th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Oh I think he’ll be great, but then I’m biased 😉
Personally I’d much rather see a period show featuring a younger Saint but leading men in their 40s and 50s seem to be the thing for hour long scripted drama nowadays, so with that limitation in mind, I honestly do think he’s the best man for the job.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
There are a couple of photos of Purefoy on his Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Purefoy
Never having seen the ROME miniseries, nor THE PHILANTHROPIST, he’s not an actor I remember coming across before. (I could say that about most of today’s actors!) But he’s been in the running for various James Bond films, and if the deal does goes through, I’d gladly go see the movie (reportedly THE SAINT IN NEW ORLEANS).