Wed 8 Oct 2014
COLLECTING PULPS: A Memoir, Part 12, by WALKER MARTIN: Rereading UNKNOWN and UNKNOWN WORLDS.
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Rereading UNKNOWN and UNKNOWN WORLDS
by Walker Martin
Why reread? I’ve known several readers and collectors who bluntly state that they seldom or never reread stories or books. They argue that there are too many new books waiting to be read, sort of the like the old saying, “So many books, so little time.”
I love to reread but only my favorite books and stories. And only the ones that I consider to be outstanding or great. There is nothing more exasperating than to reread a book and realize that it was not even worth reading the first time. Not to mention the waste of time. That’s why I’ve always noted on a slip of paper the date read, my grade, and comments about the book. Then, decades later, I can tell at a glance what I thought of the book and whether it is worth a second reading or not.
So aside from the enjoyment of rereading an outstanding book, why read it again? Some books demand a second (and a third and a fourth) reading because they have several layers and levels of complex meaning that you might want to explore and investigate. Also a book read in your twenties may reveal additional meanings when you reread it many years later. There have been books that I read as a young man that I didn’t have the proper maturity to truly understand but as an older reader, I now find them to be indispensable.
Every reader has their favorite books that they have reread. Some of mine are:
War and Peace — 3 times.
Moby Dick — 3 times.
The Sun Also Rises — 5 times.
Under the Volcano — 5 times.
In the different genres I’ve several books that I’ve reread:
In science fiction: Alfred Bester’s The Demolished Man and Stars My Destination. Also the novels of Philip K. Dick and Robert Silverberg; the short stories of J.G. Ballard and Theodore Sturgeon.
In the detective and crime genre: the novels of Raymond Chandler, Dashiell Hammett, Elmore Leonard, and Ross Macdonald.
In the western field: the novels of Luke Short, Elmore Leonard, Elmer Kelton. Lonesome Dove is maybe the best western I’ve ever reread.
I also have reread stories in the pulp magazines. Many literary critics make the mistake of lumping all the pulps into one sub-literary category. They think all the pulps published mediocre and poor action fiction of very little redeeming literary value. They are wrong. There is such a thing as excellent pulp fiction, and I’ve tried to point out some examples in this series on collecting pulps.
Of course, I absolutely agree with Sturgeon’s Law which in simple terms may be explained as “90% of everything is crap.” This is a good thing to say to anyone who criticizes your tastes in reading matter. For instance if they sneer at your love for detective, SF, or western fiction, then you can state Sturgeon’s Law, which I’ve found to roughly apply to just about all forms of literary endeavor.
In other words, I’m always looking for that less than 10% that I hope will be worth reading and rereading. As I reread my notes spread throughout thousands of books and fiction magazines, I see I’m now at a good point in my life where I’m reading mainly the good 10%. Sure, every now and then I make a mistake or blunder and find myself reading the 90% crap, but after so many years of reading, I’m getting pretty good at avoiding the stuff that is not worth reading.
A couple months before the August Pulpfest convention, one of the committee members, knowing my love for the magazine Unknown, asked me if I would participate on a panel discussing the title. This made me think about Unknown and how I had started collecting and reading it so many years ago.
When I first started to think about collecting it, I was just a teenager and had very little money. I had enough to buy the SF digests and paperbacks but a set of Unknown back in the 1950’s cost around $50, a sum that I never had until years later. Back then, just about all pulps were a dollar or less, a fact that is hard to believe now.
Finally in 1963, while attending college, I managed to put aside $50 and I started scouting around for a set of the 39 issues. All I could pay was $50 but everyone I contacted wanted more. I even contacted the Werewolf Bookshop in Verona, Pennsylvania (this bookstore advertised in many of the digest SF magazines) and I still have the letter dated September 3, 1963. I stapled it into my Unknown book where I noted my thoughts and comments on the magazine. The owner stated that he had contacted three fans and only one was willing to sell and he wanted $200 for his set.
Back in 1963 this was an outrageous sum, and it’s lucky I did not send money to the Werewolf Bookshop. It seems the owner was in the habit of sending you anything he had if he did not have the books that you ordered. Then when you complained about receiving books that you didn’t want, he would ignore your letters and keep your money. If I had sent him $200, there is no telling what he would have shipped me. Except that it would not have been a set of Unknown. I have read about and even met fellow collectors who fell victim to this scam.
Fortunately, I eventually bought a set from Gerry de la Ree, a SF collector and dealer who lived in New Jersey. For decades in the 1960’s, 1970’s, 1980’s, Gerry mailed out monthly sale lists listing SF pulps, digests, books, and artwork. He wanted only $50 and I now had the complete set. I read several stories in scattered issues, but college and then being drafted into the army delayed my project of reading the complete set.
However, by 1969 I was discharged and I spent six months of doing nothing but reading. I didn’t even look for a job, and I loved living in my mother’s house drinking beer and reading all day. She must of thought she raised a bum, but she was wrong. She raised a book collector and reader.
I started reading from the first issue, March 1939 and I read each issue, every story, every word, until the end in October 1943. That’s 4 1/2 years and 39 issues. Over 250 stories ranging from novel length to short story. John W. Campbell, the editor of both Unknown and Astounding, estimated that the 7 by 10 inch pulp size issues contained 70,000 words of fiction and the 8 1/2 by 11 inch format contained 110,000 words.
That means I read over 3 million words of fiction in 1969 when I started my project of reading the entire set. I forget how long it took me but since I was not wasting any time working, I probably read close to an issue every day or two. I then recorded my thoughts in a standard English composition notebook. I think they still make these things, black with white speckles and it says “Composition” on the front cover. With over 100 pages I could devote two pages to each issue, listing each story and author along with a grade and my comments. At the end of each year, I did a summary listing my favorites.
During the Pulpfest panel, I read some of my comments from this notebook and a couple collectors asked me if I had such books for each magazine that I collected. I used to but I eventually switched to the system of putting a slip of paper in each magazine or book with my comments, grade, and date read. I have thousands of books and magazines with these annotations tucked inside each copy. I still have a few of the notebooks, with the Unknown comments being the most extensive. I see I have one on Weird Tales where I read and noted my reactions to reading three years of issues, 1933-1935.
So to prepare for the panel, I reread only the stories that received an outstanding rating back in 1969. We often think that we were a different person 45 years ago and for the most part we probably were. I was in my twenties back then and ahead of me were all the usual things like getting married, raising a family, starting a career, buying houses, etc. Of course this series of essays deal with my collecting experiences. So what did I think at the age of 72 looking back on my younger self praising and exclaiming over the stories in Unknown?
As I reread story after story, I was impressed again at the literary quality of the magazine. I guess that’s why I’m writing about the magazine again in 2014, only instead of just comments meant for my older self, I’m now writing for other collectors and readers and encouraging them to read and reread Unknown.
What were the outstanding novels? Lest Darkness Fall and The Wheels of If by L. Sprague de Camp, who also wrote the superior Harold Shea novels with Fletcher Pratt. Death’s Deputy and Fear by L. Ron Hubbard; Hell Is Forever by Alfred Bester; Conjure Wife by Fritz Leiber; None But Lucifer by H. L .Gold and de Camp.
Among the shorter fiction, we have several novelettes by Henry Kuttner. I believe these stories represent the first quality fiction by Kuttner. Jane Rice also had several stories and when the magazine died in 1943, she almost stopped writing because Unknown was her favorite market. One of the sad things about Unknown ceasing publication was the fact the Jane Rice had a 33,000 word short novel that was scheduled for a future issue. But the manuscript has been lost by Street & Smith and Rice did not keep a copy. Anthony Boucher, Fritz Leiber, and Theodore Sturgeon also had many shorts.
But despite all the excellent fiction in Unknown, the magazine can best be described and explained by simply looking at the art of Edd Cartier. He is Unknownwith its gnomes, demons, and fantasy figures that defy description. I once had a chance to buy an original Unknown cover painting by Cartier. In the 1980’s, someone was walking around one of the Pulpcon conventions with the painting but he wanted $2,000 for it. At the time I had bought many cover paintings but the highest price I ever had to pay was $400. One of my collector mistakes. I should have dug up the money somehow because it’s worth a fortune now.
Cartier dropped out of fantasy and SF illustration sometime in the early fifties but I did manage to meet him around 1990 at Pulpcon in Wayne, NJ. Rusty Hevelin was running Pulpcon and he said Edd Cartier would be available to talk to one night. But it would be for only a special group of pulp collectors who Rusty would choose. Fortunately, I was one of them and it remains a Pulpcon highlight that I still remember all these years later.
Speaking of Cartier brings up what I think of as one of John W. Campbell’s mistakes. With the July 1940 issue the cover art was discontinued. Campbell must have looking to attract more readers with a literary style cover showing a more bland, sedate listing of stories. Maybe he thought the illustrations too garish on the covers. But the lack of any cover art at all just made the magazine seem a puzzle to many newsstand browsers. One of the big reasons for cover art is to grab your attention while you are looking at scores of magazines. Without cover illustrations the magazine just was lost on the stands. Where do you put it? This experiment was tried by previous pulps like Adventure and The Popular Magazine, and it was never successful.
I’ve owned several sets of Unknown during the last 50 years and it is still possible to pick up issues. After the panel a couple collectors told me they wanted to start collecting it and I told them to keep looking through the dealer’s room at Pulpfest because I saw several issues for sale. Usually the price is around $20 but I’ve seen higher and lower prices. Ebay also has issues.
At present I own two sets, one is the usual individual 39 issues and one is a bound set in 14 hardcover volumes. There is an interesting story about this bound set. I only paid $400 for it at Pulpcon a few years ago and neither the dealer or me noticed that it had a signature in the first volume. When I got home I was amazed to realize that I had John W. Campbell’s personal bound set of the magazine. It was inscribed as follows, “To George Scithers, who worked hard for this set”. Signed John W. Campbell. I’ve worked hard for certain sets of magazines, so I know what he means.
The magazine is not really rare because so many SF and fantasy collectors loved the magazine and saved their copies. It is probably the most missed of all the pulp titles. In the letter columns of old SF magazines, it is often referred to as “the late, lamented Unknown.” For several years after it ceased publication due to the war time paper restrictions, letters in Astounding kept asking when the title would be revived. Evidently Campbell intended to start it up again when paper was available. But that was not until 1948 and then Street & Smith killed off all their pulps except for Astounding in 1949.
So Unknown remained dead but several magazines were influenced in the 1950’s. Fantasy Fiction lasted four issues in 1953; Beyond Fantasy Fiction lasted ten issues in 1953-1955; and The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, which is still being published, has often printed Unknown type fiction.
If you are not a collector but you still want to read some of the best fiction, there are several collections available:
UNKNOWN WORLDS: Tales From Beyond, edited by Stanley Schmidt and Martin H. Greenberg (Garland Books, 1988) This is the biggest and best collection. 25 stories and 517 pages.
RIVALS OF WEIRD TALES, edited by Weinberg, Dziemianowicz, and Greenberg. (Bonanza Books, 1990) Among stories from other magazines, there is a section of 11 stories from Unknown, amounting to 200 pages.
THE UNKNOWN, edited by D. R. Bensen (Pyramid, 1963) This paperback has 11 stories and story notes.
THE UNKNOWN FIVE, edited by D.R. Bensen (Pyramid, 1964) Another collection from Bensen.
UNKNOWN, edited by Stanley Schmidt (Baen Books, 1988) Nine of the longer stories and 304 pages. Paperback.
HELL HATH FURY, edited by George Hay (Neville Spearman Ltd., 1963) Seven stories in hardback.
OUT OF THE UNKNOWN, by A.E. Van Vogt and E. Mayne Hull (Powell Publications, 1969) This paperback has seven Unknown stories by Van Vogt and wife.
And finally there are two full-length studies of the magazine:
THE ANNOTATED GUIDE TO UNKNOWN AND UNKNOWN WORLDS, by Stefan R. Dziemianowicz (Starmont House, 1991) This is an excellent study of all aspects of the great magazine. A total of 212 pages with a long essay about the magazine, followed with detailed story annotations on every story, a story index, an author index and much more! Highly Recommended.
ONCE THERE WAS A MAGAZINE, by Fred Smith (Beccon Publications, 2002). Each issue is discussed plus author and title index.
So ends my rereading of Unknown and I hope to return someday. I guess we shall never see a revival of the magazine. I noted over a dozen pleas from readers in Astounding, all asking when Unknown would be revived, but the October 1943 issue was the last one. A digest issue was planned and discussed in the October issue but an order for additional paper reduction came and Unknown was a victim of WW II.
REST IN PEACE: Unknown and Unknown Worlds.
NOTE: To access earlier installments of Walker’s memoirs about his life as a pup collector, go first to this blog’s home page (link at the far upper left), then use the search box found somewhere down the right side. Use either “Walker Martin” or “Collecting Pulps” in quotes, and that should do it.
October 8th, 2014 at 9:21 pm
I would love to see these memoir columns collected and published either in an e book or in print form, perhaps with even more biographical information, Walker. They’re always a joy to read.
October 8th, 2014 at 10:13 pm
Great stuff. Thanks for sharing it with us.
October 8th, 2014 at 10:28 pm
Thanks for encouraging me Rick. To tell the truth, I’m very critical of my ramblings about dusty, old forgotten magazines. There have been times I’ve typed out a memoir and instead hit the delete button instead of sending the article to MYSTERY FILE.
I started thinking about this UNKNOWN piece about two months ago during the UNKNOWN panel at PulpFest. Almost each day as I took my morning walk, I thought about the magazine and my memories reading the stories. This helped to distract me from the boredom of my walk and also any leg pain that I might be suffering.
But I never sat down and typed out my thoughts because my wife and grown son are also often using the computer and I need several hours to compose my thoughts and type, etc. Then a few days ago, they were both out of the house and I sat down and you see the result above.
My love of these old fiction titles keeps me going and I’m always hoping there are fellow readers and collectors who share my enthusiasm.
October 8th, 2014 at 10:32 pm
Thanks Bill. By the way, I just read a funny piece in an old issue of THRILLING WONDER. Jerome Bixby had a fandom department in the early 1950’s and he told the story of how he had his set of UNKNOWN stacked up in the hall of his house. His cat used the set as a scratching post and ruined the spines.
Maybe that’s not so funny!
October 9th, 2014 at 3:29 am
Walker, your “ramblings” about pulps and collecting are always fascinating reading. Keep them coming, and quit hitting that delete button!
October 9th, 2014 at 6:16 am
Thanks Steve. I know you love the fiction of John D. MacDonald and if UNKNOWN had been revived he would have definitely written for the magazine.
October 9th, 2014 at 1:07 pm
And of course, most of the serials in Unknown have been reprinted as well.
October 9th, 2014 at 2:23 pm
Walker,
Sounds as if we reread a lot of the same books and more than once. My wife wondered how I got through Powys A GLASTONBURY TOR once much less three times. I always find something new in certain books. New seldom means better, and I would rather find something new in a great book I’ve read than struggle through another thud ear epic.
I’ve said before, I’m a critical buyer. When I flip through a book to buy, if I don’t already know the writer, just one clunker is enough to lose me — especially at todays prices.
UNKNOWN for me is on a level so high nothing else in the pulps approaches it for consistent quality. Not only is it an amazing round up of writers but many did what I consider their best work there, and even relatively minor efforts were usually memorable. Certainly Hubbard did far and away his best work there, and if it wasn’t Asimov’s best it was certainly the least typical of his output and a good showcase for his ‘devilish’ sense of humor.
Quite a few UNKNOWN’s are available at unz.org for free downloads for those of us who don’t have space or money for the originals.
I recall Gerry de la Ree and his catalogues fondly and Werewolf’s return policies less so — at least it was accurately named.
I never tried for whole sets of pulp titles, but among the prizes in my collection were the UNKNOWN’s.
FAMOUS FANTASTIC MYSTERIES tried the no cover art format too and it didn’t last long, but publishers were always trying to save a penny at the cost of a dime. Generic covers have never worked in any format other than READERS DIGEST, ELLERY QUEEN MYSTERY MAGAZINE (and even they went to art and photos) and a few new magazines, but they keep on trying.
I suppose they argue the quality of the stories and writers alone should sell the magazine, but they might as well package them in a plain paper bag. Especially the pulps where the garish covers had to compete.
October 9th, 2014 at 3:09 pm
Beb is right about the serials and novels being mostly reprinted as well. The strangest case involved NONE BUT LUCIFER by HL Gold and de Camp. For decades it remained unreprinted despite being a good fantasy. Finally Gold’s son allowed it to be reprinted. I think it had something to do maybe with the fact that Gold was not happy about de Camp being bought in to update it, etc.
October 9th, 2014 at 3:17 pm
David mentions the high quality of UNKNOWN’S fiction. I guess that is why the magazine is the most missed and loved title of all the pulps. Which reminds me of another funny piece as reported in THRILLING WONDER in the early 1950’s.
Sam Merwin, the editor of STARTLING and THRILLING WONDER, was on a panel at a SF convention. An audience member rose and asked him the question about when he was going to revive UNKNOWN. The audience erupted in laughter because of course Merwin had nothing to do with UNKNOWN.
John W. Campbell, the former editor of UNKNOWN was in the audience also and he was not pleased!
October 9th, 2014 at 10:29 pm
David: I just checked to make sure but Asimov never appeared in UNKNOWN with a story. He had 3 letters but no fiction.
However he did submit a manuscript and it was accepted for publication but the magazine died before it could be printed. Asimov tells the sad details in THE UNKNOWN FIVE about how he was almost an UNKNOWN author. But then Bensen printed the story in the anthology under the title “Author!, Author!” So I guess this does finally make Asimov an UNKNOWN author.
October 10th, 2014 at 4:06 am
Well, Merwin could’ve considered reviving STRANGE STORIES, the primary if shortlived Thrilling fantasy pulp.
And, Walker, you really shouldn’t forget about the second longest-running fantasy magazine founded in or just before the 1950s, FANTASTIC…particularly not on this blog, given the founding editor, Howard Browne, and his rather casual successor, Paul Fairman…and the rather more engaged if variously successful successors, including Cele Goldsmith/Lalli, Harry Harrison, Barry Malzberg and Ted White…and even Fairman’s issues gave us the first published fiction by Kate Wilhelm among other items of interest, the KW story due to Cele Goldsmith as PF’s assitstant combing the slush.
October 10th, 2014 at 5:07 am
Another excellent piece Walker. I wonder if anyone ever reported that guy that used to pull the bait and switch scam to the U.S. Postal Service? As far as rereading stories and novels, I have done that as far back as I can remember. For me at least it is like visiting an old friend that I haven’t seen for awhile.
They do indeed still make those “composition” notebooks you refer to as I use one to keep notes regarding the prep work I do for PulpFest. It is so much easier for me to look up what I have done or need to do yet.
Interesting that you should mention those Pyramid paperback collections like The Unknown and The Unknown Five as they are where I first learned about the magazine and realized that I also had to collect it.
One of my all time favorites is But Without Horns by Norvell Page. It always makes feel a little sad there were not more that 39 issues published, not to mention the wonderful Cartier covers that were never done due to the dreadful decision to stop using cover art.
October 10th, 2014 at 7:06 am
Todd: I’ve been reading the letter columns of THRILLING WONDER and STARTLING recently and Merwin is asked a couple times about reviving STRANGE STORIES. His response was simply that there were no plans for such a revival.
I meant to mention FANTASTIC also. Thanks for reminding me. It did publish quite a bit of fantasy and I’ve always enjoyed reading Ted White’s long editorials during his time as editor, 1968-1978.
October 10th, 2014 at 7:24 am
Barry, the cover by Edd Cartier for BUT WITHOUT HORNS is a great one(See above). I saw another collector at PulpFest walking around wearing a t-shirt with the cover image and I talked him into making one for me also. I’ll wear it at the next PulpFest and show you.
When the first paper reduction order came down Street & Smith reduced the size of UNKNOWN from 8 1/2 by 11 inches to standard pulp format of 7 by 10. Then when the second order came down they were going to reduce the magazine to digest size like ASTOUNDING. The issue was set in type and reading to go. It would have been the 40th issue.
But then *another* order came down to reduce the paper usage and this time they decided to cease publication until after the war. So the third order to reduce paper was the killer.
I figured that we would have seen at least another 30 digest issues during 1944-1949 if not for the paper shortages. In 1949 Street & Smith probably would have killed UNKNOWN with their other pulps.
But at least we would have had another 30 or so issues…
October 10th, 2014 at 9:31 am
Nice piece, and lovely sharp cover images.
In the short list of published books/booklets about UNKNOWN, you might also have mentioned Stuart Hoffman’s 1955 INDEX TO UNKNOWN AND UNKNOWN WORLDS — mostly superseded now (though as Michael Burgess noted, the character index included is still unique), but it deserves some kudos as the first. I know when I got my own copy of the Hoffman index back in the early 1960s, I had no or almost no issues yet of the magazine itself, but the descriptions of the stories made me salivate and look forward to the day when I would be able to actually acquire and read the lot (which did eventually happen).
October 10th, 2014 at 10:02 am
Since Unknown’s plug was pulled just as the first digest issue was about to be printed, I assumed for years that a further reduction in paper forced S&S to choose between killing Unknown or dropping Astounding to bi-monthly. However, the second volume of JWC’s letters prints a contemporary letter from Campbell to Robert Swisher that describes what actually happened: the new order forced publishers to fold the titles that had the highest newsstand returns and Unknown’s returns were much higher than Astounding’s, so Unknown got the axe.
October 10th, 2014 at 10:17 am
There’s another guide to Unknown, “An Index and Short History of Unknown,” by Arthur Metzger, 1976. Not bad and it also lists all the reprints up to that time.
October 10th, 2014 at 10:46 am
Walker is dead right about Unknown.It had everything.Humor,Horror,Adventure.Stories set in the present,the past and the future.All of them of a surprisingly high quality.If Campbell had only edited Unknown,he would still be considered one of the great editors.
October 10th, 2014 at 10:52 am
Was it a novel by Rice or by “Marian O’Hearn” that was lost? I believe the 42,000 word novel, “No Soul, No Death” by O’Hearn was never published after Unknown folded and is lost. Rice had sold a short story to Unknown, “The Cats,” that was transferred to Charm magazine when Unknown folded and ran in 1944.
October 10th, 2014 at 10:56 am
Sorry, a Kuttner story was printed in Charm. Charm sent “The Cats” back and it’s in one of the Jane Rice collections.
October 10th, 2014 at 11:46 am
Denny: Thanks for mentioning Hoffman’s index to UNKNOWN. My notes say I have it but I can’t seem to locate it now(So many books, so little space!)
Ken, I’ve heard the story about the high number of returns dooming UNKNOWN also. They didn’t want to waste paper during WWII, so many magazines bit the dust.
October 10th, 2014 at 11:56 am
Lohr: I just looked through my shelves and found my copy of Arthur Metzger’s AN INDEX & SHORT HISTORY OF UNKNOWN(T-K Graphics, 1976). Thanks for mentioning it.
I’ve heard about the O’Hearn novel which Campbell sort of kept around in case of an emergency. Not sure it was lost; he just didn’t like it that much.
The Jane Rice short novel was titled “Lucy” and was 33,000 words. Will Murray tried to find the manuscript but no luck. I believe he looked through the Street & Smith records at Syracuse University. She lived to around 90 years old and all of her UNKNOWN work was published in THE IDOL OF THE FLIES AND OTHER STORIES(Midnight House–2003).
October 10th, 2014 at 12:23 pm
Digges in comment #19 is so right. John Campbell really loved the magazine and it is obvious from the care he took with it. He really wanted to revive it but Street & Smith wanted to get out of the pulp business in 1949 plus I heard that the big 1948 Annual issue did not sell well.
October 10th, 2014 at 1:40 pm
It was interesting to see that you rate books and stories.
At your urging I began this year with subscriptions to five fiction magazines. Because most of the authors’ names were new to me, I decided from the outset to track the stories and authors so that I could buy books written by the best of them.
I wrote an application that allows me to keep track of story, author, recurring characters and the like. It’s been quite an education. Funny how sometimes your mental impressions don’t always line up with the facts of your recorded history.
October 10th, 2014 at 2:03 pm
Walker,
Thanks, I had it in my head Asimov did a series for UNKNOWN for some reason. At least I get a partial on that thanks to the reprint.
BUT WITHOUT HORNS is one of the stories with the Carter cover you can download at unz.org in pdf form along with most of the Incomplete Enchanter series and several more.
Much as we love it many pulp readers didn’t quite know what to do with UNKNOWN. Add that to the paper shortage, war time and just after distribution problems, and Campbell’s mistake with the covers and a lot of factors eventually doomed the magazine. Still it stayed true to itself to the end.
Did DARKER THAN YOU THINK run in UNKNOWN or did Williamson just do it in the UNKNOWN style?
But UNKNOWN is the rarity, something actually as good as the insiders remember it.
One note though, unless I missed a revolution the last few years, Campbell is still considered not only one of the great editors, but the greatest science fiction editor despite his flirtation with Dianetics and a few strange ideas. I can’t think of a single history of the genre or the pulps that doesn’t credit him with the most important innovation in legitimizing the genre and the most important author’s list in the genre’s history.
That despite the lies of Hubbard and his supporters that Hubbard was Campbell’s mentor and really responsible for all his successes.
I missed the memo where he got downgraded.
October 10th, 2014 at 2:23 pm
Joe, I hated to start subscriptions to the digest magazines but I had to do it when my local Barnes & Noble no longer could be counted on to stock the magazines.
I just received my copies of ANALOG and ASIMOV’S in the mail and I managed to peel off the address stickers but the covers are tattered and torn. They look a lot worse than my 70 year old copies of UNKNOWN.
October 10th, 2014 at 2:41 pm
David, DARKER THAN YOU THINK appeared as a complete, 40,000 word novel in the December 1940 UNKNOWN. Later Williamson expanded it quite a bit for book publication after the war.
Campbell died in 1971 but I met him once in 1970. I was attending an SF convention in NYC or Philadelphia and I went out for a couple drinks. Unfortunately I went in some dive with bar girls pushing drinks and I staggered back to the hotel having had too much to drink.
As I got on the elevator, John W. Campbell got on also and I remember he had his cigarette holder in use. We looked at each other but I didn’t say anything.
If I had to do it all over again, I’d say, “We still miss UNKNOWN!”
October 10th, 2014 at 2:59 pm
I just looked through my notebook from the 1960’s where I recorded my comments about UNKNOWN and two issues really stand out for me. When I recently reread them in preparation for the PulpFest panel on UNKNOWN, I found the same two issues to be impressive. The dates are February 1941 and April 1943.
The February 1941 issue has the great Sturgeon story “Shottle Bop”. It has the excellent beginning about the sign in the window of an old shop that says:
WE SELL BOTTLES
With things in them.
Then the funny “The Mislaid Charm” by A.M. Phillips. It has 6 excellent Cartier illustrations and is a fine example of the UNKNOWN style of whacky and crazy fantasy. Also “Doubled and Redoubled” by Malcolm Jameson where a man repeats the same day over and over, sort of a precursor to GROUNDHOG DAY. And there are other stories also.
Now that I look at the April 1943 issue, maybe it’s the best! First the great CONJURE WIFE by Leiber. It’s one of the very best novels in the magazine and has been reprinted over a dozen times. A classic witchcraft novel that takes place in a academic setting. A university professor at PulpFest told me it resembled real life.
“No Greater Love” by Henry Kuttner is a long novelet about a man who gets a love charm and finds to his horror that everyone loves him. “The Giftie Gien” by Malcolm Jameson deals with a man in Hell finding out what everyone really thought of him. “The Golden Bridle” by Jane Rice is about a jockey who could not lose with the bridle.
I’m sure everyone has their favorite issue however. A great magazine…
October 10th, 2014 at 10:41 pm
Another collector on one of the yahoo discussion groups, where we discuss old magazines, has just said wouldn’t it be great if Walker had a million dollar grant and used the money to reprint top quality pulp stories.
Well, we really live in the great, golden age of pulp reprints. Look at the excellent reprints being done by Altus Press and other reprint publishers.
But, I was thinking, if I had a million or two, I’d really like to use the money to revive UNKNOWN. I know the circulation and distribution is not there any longer but with a million to blow, I could pay top rates to the authors and artists and probably be able to publish another 39 issues before the money ran out.
I’m willing to try. Any takers?
October 10th, 2014 at 11:52 pm
I would certainly line up to buy, read, and maybe try my hand at writing. The UNKNOWN style story has always intrigued me in all three capacities.
October 11th, 2014 at 12:43 am
If you’re really serious about restarting Unknown, you should try a kickstarter campaign. That seems to be what everyone is doing these days.
October 11th, 2014 at 8:19 am
Kickstarter might work for a book. For instance I supported projects that will eventually publish books on Virgil Finlay and Walter Baumhofer.
But a print magazine in today’s market would require deep pockets and be a labor of love. That’s why we would need a millionaire publisher who was willing to lose a million or so just to get the magazine up and running. Of course this will not happen because the future of print magazines looks really bleak.
Looks like UNKNOWN will remain unknown. But we still have the 39 back issues which are possible to collect. That’s over 3 million words of quality fantasy reading.
October 12th, 2014 at 10:24 am
There is another collection that I meant to mention but forgot to list above. In 1948 Street & Smith decided to publish a large size, bedsheet collection of stories from UNKNOWN. It was in magazine form and titled, FROM UNKNOWN WORLDS. It had new illustrations and a cover by Cartier.
John Campbell stated that if sales were good, then UNKNOWN would be revived. However evidently sales were less than impressive. In addition a decision was made in 1949 to kill all the Street & Smith fiction magazines except for ASTOUNDING.